Politics Raising gas tax ‘on the table’ to pay for infrastructure

[Mike]

U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary nominee Pete Buttigieg acknowledged on Thursday that raising the federal gas tax will be one of the options to fund “major investments” needed for highway infrastructure.

“I think all options need to be on the table,” Buttigieg said during his confirmation hearing before the U.S. Senate’s Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee.

Buttigieg: Raising gas tax ‘on the table’ to pay for infrastructure - FreightWaves

Pete Buttigieg weighs in on infrastructure, trucking regulations and the Jones Act during a three-hour nomination hearing.

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Don’t worry folks, only the rich will have to pay the higher tax at the pumps, because the average Americans won’t pay more taxes under this administration!

 

[Tramm01]

Well, you gotta admit that the bastards are talented — took 4 years for the prices to come down to a half way decent price and 2 days for them to *uck it up

 

[GAnthony]

problem here however, is that much of that money will be redirected to other uses.

 

[Hammer166]

problem here however, is that much of that money will be redirected to uses.

Just like the ridiculous tolls on GW and the PA Pike mostly go elsewhere...

 

[Hammer166]

And let's see if any of the lefties have the nads to propose a per mile tax on electrics, so they can pay "their fair share."

 

[mndriver]

And let's see if any of the lefties have the nads to propose a per mile tax on electrics, so they can pay "their fair share."

Brought that up to my state representative and senator.

Minnesota admits that it needs to be brought to fruition but “we can’t figure out how to make that happen.”

I asked them if they’d ever heard of IFTA.

“Yeah, we’ve heard of it. Works good for commercial purposes...”

You can’t facepalm some of this stupidity...

 

[Slowpoke KW]

Some states have wanted to go to a Vehicle Miles Traveled tax and keep getting shutdown cause they think the only way to do it is have everybody install tracking systems.

Couldn’t they just have the mileage checked by the tag agent when ya renew the registration? Or with these smartphones take a picture of the odometer? My phone will show the date and time it was taken to prove it is current.

 

[gearjammer]

Some states have wanted to go to a Vehicle Miles Traveled tax and keep getting shutdown cause they think the only way to do it is have everybody install tracking systems.

Couldn’t they just have the mileage checked by the tag agent when ya renew the registration? Or with these smartphones take a picture of the odometer? My phone will show the date and time it was taken to prove it is current.

that would just revive ways to turn back the odometer

 

[Duck]

Some states have wanted to go to a Vehicle Miles Traveled tax and keep getting shutdown cause they think the only way to do it is have everybody install tracking systems.

Couldn’t they just have the mileage checked by the tag agent when ya renew the registration? Or with these smartphones take a picture of the odometer? My phone will show the date and time it was taken to prove it is current.

Well it'll be like with IFTA and needing to know how many miles were driven on local, state and federal highways so they know how much to tax and how to distribute it to the various entities.

It's been a few years since I've had to log that IFTA stuff but I recall having to write down the routing in addition to the odometer readings.

Government wants to track everyone anyway, so they know where to find you when it's your turn to get rounded up into the slave labor camps as punishment for thought crimes.

 

[Slowpoke KW]

that would just revive ways to turn back the odometer

Aren’t they all digital now?

 

[Hammer166]

Well it'll be like with IFTA and needing to know how many miles were driven on local, state and federal highways so they know how much to tax and how to distribute it to the various entities.

It's been a few years since I've had to log that IFTA stuff but I recall having to write down the routing in addition to the odometer readings.

Government wants to track everyone anyway, so they know where to find you when it's your turn to get rounded up into the slave labor camps as punishment for thought crimes.

The routing is only for auditing purposes, not for distribution of collected tax.

Aren’t they all digital now?

Yep, driven by the ecm.

 

[gearjammer]

Aren’t they all digital now?

computers are hacked all the time

 

[mndriver]

The best I’ve seen is an annual surcharge when you purchase your license tag.

Based on estimated annual mileage people drive.

The idea is you can take the standard rate levied or you can itemize your payment. Then you have to report actual odometer readings to verify miles driven.

The one “gitalong” in that hitch.

How do you work it for someone that lives in say Indiana and spends 90% of their time in a surrounding state.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Rich truckers have plenty of money. It'll be fine.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Just like the ridiculous tolls on GW and the PA Pike mostly go elsewhere...

PA sold the turnpike to a private company that collected the tolls and reneged on the mortgage.

 

[Hammer166]

PA sold the turnpike to a private company that collected the tolls and reneged on the mortgage.

All I know is a recent article talking about the increases mentioned the money goes to the general fund or something, but not the highway fund.

 

[Electric Chicken]

All I know is a recent article talking about the increases mentioned the money goes to the general fund or something, but not the highway fund.

Maybe they repo'ed it and I missed that memo. You could be right.

 

[Hammer166]

Maybe they repo'ed it and I missed that memo. You could be right.

Either way, it ain't right!

 

[Electric Chicken]

Either way, it ain't right!

Agreed.

Although on the rare occasion they actually do use the money for brand new roads and bridges, I don't mind as much.

 

[Mike]

How do you work it for someone that lives in say Indiana and spends 90% of their time in a surrounding state.

It would be basically impossible unless they found a way to go further and require GPS tracking and ended up doing it IFTA style as mentioned previously.

I’m sure the government would love to be able to work their way toward that for multiple underhanded reasons.