New Amazon Crapcadias

[389 Hood]

Has anyone seen the new Crapcadias that Amazon is using? I saw one and then started taking notice. I was running west out to Cecil Field in Jacksonville, which has a huge Amazon warehouse nearby and the road is always loaded with Amazon trucks. I got caught by a traffic light and this truck pulled up next to me. Of course, I look over and the first thing I see is, WTF? No side mirrors! Huh? He's on my left and I know his lane runs out in about a mile or so. I wondered if he ripped them off and I didn't want to be on his bad side.

I get a small jump on the green light to get ahead and let him know that I'm there. That wasn't an issue, he autobox was keeping him back. But when it did grab a fresh gear it would lurch hard and the cab was doing all of this jumping around. Anyway, the next light we caught he was on my right and I stayed back a bit to look. Inside on the A-pillars, there are these huge screens. After leaving the light, I held back to pace him and sure enough the screens were projecting the image that would be seen in the side mirrors.

Aside of maybe the steering wheel holders ripping them off while hitting things, what would be the purpose of these things? Wind drag? Less upkeep? Easier to control the field of vision?
I think I would much rather have a real set of mirrors out there.

When he got to the warehouse, he pulled in the driveway where the empties entered the property. OMG! He was empty? I was sitting at 79,600 and eased away from him without all the cab jumping and my drive line not being ripped apart. I thought that all these new trucks came with at least a 500, so they would have to work as hard?

 

[GAnthony]

i just usually see o/o trucks here, and they ain't nuffin new

 

[Duck]

When he got to the warehouse, he pulled in the driveway where the empties entered the property. OMG! He was empty? I was sitting at 79,600 and eased away from him without all the cab jumping and my drive line not being ripped apart. I thought that all these new trucks came with at least a 500, so they would have to work as hard?

Another reason why I hate automatic truck transmissions.

Even when you're empty, some of them still insist on going through every gear.

And no, they're not 500 horses. They claim to be, but they're neutered emissions turds.

Just like how your shop vac says it's 5 horsepower, even though it's impossible to produce 5 horsepower with the amount of electricity they draw.

 

[Rigjockey]

I have seen the videos of the next-gen Kenworth T-680s, They boast having no mirrors, It is exactly like @389 Hood described, it is screen on the A-pillars. Supposedly this improves drag. They say they have heated cameras instead.
I think it would take some getting used to. I know with outside mounted mirrors sometime I can't see something but I can move my head to get a better or different look at the mirror from where they are pointed, can't do that with a screen image.

Mirrors are mirrors and they are pretty reliable and not subject to glitches like cameras.

 

[389 Hood]

I'm going to try pacing one, one night and being a mirror voyeur, just to see what they show the driver. I would never expect them to have a radio in which to communicate on. Also wondering if they are fixed position or driver adjustable. I used to get in some trucks, look in the mirrors and all I see is trailer. Hell, I know the trailer is there, I can feel it. I want to casually look and see the lane next to me, not the trailer.

When I see someone climbing on top of the steering wheel to see into the mirrors, I know they aren't set right.

 

[Rigjockey]

I'm going to try pacing one, one night and being a mirror voyeur, just to see what they show the driver. I would never expect them to have a radio in which to communicate on. Also wondering if they are fixed position or driver adjustable. I used to get in some trucks, look in the mirrors and all I see is trailer. Hell, I know the trailer is there, I can feel it. I want to casually look and see the lane next to me, not the trailer.

When I see someone climbing on top of the steering wheel to see into the mirrors, I know they aren't set right.

I share a truck with a dude that is 5'2", I am 6'3" I have to adjust the mirrors all the time because of the difference in our seat positions. I only like to see a bit of the side of the trailer and more of what is beside the trailer. Like you say, I know the trailer is there.

 

[Mike]

The mirrors supposedly provide a clearer view, particularly in bad weather, and virtually eliminate blind spots.

Seeing them on more and more trucks, almost got them with my truck in 2021. Next truck will definitely have them provided they are available on whatever brand of truck I go with.

 

[Uncle Birchy]

The mirrors supposedly provide a clearer view, particularly in bad weather, and virtually eliminate blind spots.

Seeing them on more and more trucks, almost got them with my truck in 2021. Next truck will definitely have them provided they are available on whatever brand of truck I go with.

Go "Figure" ya would too..

What I don't get is we about the "Same Age"..

Yet @Mike ya always "Love" all this new "technology" crap. ..

Okay ya "Embrace " the New Technology..

All I see is something so "Complicated" and Co$ts Real "$$$" Fix or Sort Out .

I see the "Silicon Valley" as my "Blood Enemy" out to "Eliminate" The Way Of Life I once "Knew"..

And If I'm "Old School " just won't Comply the Corporations Today tell ya "Get Lost"

You "Embrace " this 100%

I'd love "Nothing Less" than a Massive Stock Market Crash plus a Banking Crisis 2 "Bankrupt " Big Tech down 2 it's "Knees"

 

[389 Hood]

Glad I'm not invested in tech. Birchy wants to be sure I never retire.

 

[Uncle Birchy]

Glad I'm not invested in tech. Birchy wants to be sure I never retire.

I'm sick of how just computerize everything nowadays..

It only "accelerated" since COVID19 the Lockdowns were almost like handing those Big Tech "Elites" the Rest Of America now they wanna control every aspect of our freaking lives now from daylight 2 dark .

You're Damn Right I want em to go "Bankruptcy Court" and board up their buildings..

You're lucky I ain't "President " we'd go back to 1995 & STAY THERE for 50 years

 

[Uncle Birchy]

Glad I'm not invested in tech. Birchy wants to be sure I never retire.

I'm sick of how just computerize everything nowadays..

It only "accelerated" since COVID19 the Lockdowns were almost like handing those Big Tech "Elites" the Rest Of America now they wanna control every aspect of our freaking lives now from daylight 2 dark .

You're Damn Right I want em to go "Bankruptcy Court" and board up their buildings..

You're lucky I ain't "President " we'd go back to 1995 & STAY THERE for

 

[Rigjockey]

Even with an economic crash. The Government will just say the tech industry is too big to fail and hand them billions of tax dollars while some taxpayers are losing everything because of the crash.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Another reason why I hate automatic truck transmissions.

Even when you're empty, some of them still insist on going through every gear.

And no, they're not 500 horses. They claim to be, but they're neutered emissions turds.

Just like how your shop vac says it's 5 horsepower, even though it's impossible to produce 5 horsepower with the amount of electricity they draw.

I doubt the veracity of the 445 hp claim on my Mack every day.

I like the truck but everyone seems to out pull me no matter how light I am.

I guess I need 700hp to feel like I have 500.

The old Ford was only 315hp rated but it would dig at gross in 9th (top gear for that transmission) without losing a single mph.

 

[Rigjockey]

I doubt the veracity of the 445 hp claim on my Mack every day.

I like the truck but everyone seems to out pull me no matter how light I am.

I guess I need 700hp to feel like I have 500.

The old Ford was only 315hp rated but it would dig at gross in 9th (top gear for that transmission) without losing a single mph.

Have you had Mack look at the settings? The last owner may have had it nutted down.
My truck is advertised as 425HP but it is no where near operating at 425HP.

 

[Electric Chicken]

Have you had Mack look at the settings? The last owner may have had it nutted down.
My truck is advertised as 425HP but it is no where near operating at 425HP.

I looked at everything myself and don't see anything denutting it.

TBH it's probably just the really tall gearing in the rears. It's somewhere around 2.47:1 which means really low RPM at high speeds. If I was pulling flatbed I'd probably love it.

 

[BlackBart]

Have you had Mack look at the settings? The last owner may have had it nutted down.
My truck is advertised as 425HP but it is no where near operating at 425HP.

Could also be emission crap too puttin back pressure on it, but if he’s right about that rear end gearing his top gear is pretty much useless except on flat ground empty

A better setup IMHO would have him taching about 1400 or so at 70

 

[Rigjockey]

Yeah, It could be a flat land truck geared toward that. I know P.A. Is nothing but hills.
If you find flat ground in P.A. you may be sitting on a CAT scale

 

[Electric Chicken]

Yeah, It could be a flat land truck geared toward that. I know P.A. Is nothing but hills.
If you find flat ground in P.A. you may be sitting on a CAT scale

It was a limestone tanker truck, and you know how those trailers are basically airplanes. Super aerodynamic with minimal drag.

Plus the terminal and plant they ran out of was in York PA. So probably a lot of side roads to get to the customers.

I bought the 100% wrong truck for what I'm doing but it was cheap.

 

[389 Hood]

I looked at everything myself and don't see anything denutting it.

TBH it's probably just the really tall gearing in the rears. It's somewhere around 2.47:1 which means really low RPM at high speeds. If I was pulling flatbed I'd probably love it.

You can look at things all you want too. But you need to get into the ECM to evaluate the parameters. Also, the TCM to find the correct shift points for the weight, terrain and economy of the truck. It may say it's a 445, but it may only be set at 375 and a torque output of 1500. Again, settings would also depend on the strength of the drive line. If you have a 1600 ft pd rated driveshaft and transmission main shaft, you don't want to be running 2050 through it and stomping on it from a dead stop like a mega driver would. It's lifetime will become very limited.

 

[Electric Chicken]

You can look at things all you want too. But you need to get into the ECM to evaluate the parameters. Also, the TCM to find the correct shift points for the weight, terrain and economy of the truck. It may say it's a 445, but it may only be set at 375 and a torque output of 1500. Again, settings would also depend on the strength of the drive line. If you have a 1600 ft pd rated driveshaft and transmission main shaft, you don't want to be running 2050 through it and stomping on it from a dead stop like a mega driver would. It's lifetime will become very limited.

I have the same software the dealer has.